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Spurs Odyssey Preview - Spurs v Mottm Forest, 21.11.98

This preview was written by Brian Judson.


Full Record of Spurs -v- Nottingham Forest

Premier        Pl   W   D   L   For-Ag   Pts
Home            4   1   0   3     3-7     3
Away            4   0   1   3     5-8     1
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Total (Prem)    8   1   1   6     8-15    4
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Football Lge
Home (Div 1)   34  20   4  10    76-46    48
Away (Div 1)   34  17  10   7    48-37    50
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Total (Div 1)  68  37  14  17   124-83    98
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Football Lge
Home (Div 2)   13   8   3   2    25-15    19
Away (Div 2)   13   1   6   6    15-25     8
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Total (Div 2)  26   9   9   8    40-40    27
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Total (Prem)    8   1   1   6     8-15     4
Total (Div 1)  68  37  14  17   124-83    98
Total (Div 2)  26   9   9   8    40-40    27
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Grand Total   102  47  24  31   172-138  129
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"We hate Nottingham Forest
We hate Liverpool, too,
We hate the bloody Gunners
But Tot'nam We Love You!"

Back in the '70s, this was a little jingle heard from the Shelf where the faithful used to congregate. I am none too sure what Nottingham Forest had done to merit hatred from the faithful because in those days, Forest used to roll over and let Tottenham walk all over them. (Ed: I think there were variations on the theme and "West Ham United" might also have got a mention. I think the opening line had the right number of syllables to fit!)

The record score in these encounters dates from 29 September 1962. The problems of the previous season, particularly before the arrival of a certain Master Greaves, were forgotten. Spurs had been finding the net again. Poor Peter Grummitt picked the ball out of his net NINE times. Spurs were 6-1 ahead within half an hour. Les Allen scored the sixth from the penalty spot because he was worried Bill Nicholson was about to drop him. Greaves let Allen take the penalty which was crashed in from off the crossbar. Greaves scored four that day, Cliff Jones scored twice and Medwin and White completed the rout. Yet Forest scored the first and final goals of the afternoon.

Nine years later, in October 1971, Spurs thrashed Forest, 6-1. I am sure most of us resident in the UK have seen these goals on video or on TV, particularly in Bobby Charlton's Soccer Scrapbook on Sky. The football from Spurs was exquisite and the celebrations were just a clap on the back and a handshake. Mullery blasted the ball from the edge of the area to score one goal that sticks in my mind. Chivers scored one from good work by Martin Peters on the left wing. Peters scored two, one of which was from the penalty spot. And Jimmy Pearce completed the rout.

Pearce, to my mind, was a very talented player who lacked that vital little bit of the devil that makes a truly great player. Perhaps he was overawed by the many talented players around him. But it was sheer tragedy that injury prematurely forced him out of the game.

I am sure that most people have their own memories over the years.

Nottingham Forest had their greatest years under Brian Clough, who took over the management of the club in January 1975 and retired after the FA Cup Final defeat at the feet of Tottenham in May 1991. His greatest achievement was to take Nottingham Forest to two successive European Cup Finals and win them both.

But in Clough's later years, Nottingham Forest declined and it was clear that all was not well at the City Ground. It was sad to see Clough depart after playing such a magnificent part in the history of British football, particularly as he never subscribed to defensive football.

I just wonder how old Big 'ead would have dealt with Van Hooijdonk when he walked out on Forest before the season started. Somehow I don't think he would have taken him back even if he had licked his tongue raw cleaning Cloughie's boots.

Even with the Flying Dutchman back, I'm taking Spurs to win Saturday's game : I think it will be a 2-0 win.

Cheers, Brian

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